we said under the new romney-ryan tax plan would governor romney pay more or less in taxes? ryan says because they will get rid of so many tax deductions governor romney would actually under their plan pay more. back to you. melissa: rich, interesting stuff. do they feel like they're winning people over? i guess they're going to say that because they're politicians but do you think that they feel like they're getting traction? >> they say that. and they feel, they are winning folks over but the problem is, polls in some of these key states don't necessarily show it. overall nationwide you've seen a narrowing since the democratic national convention. you've seen the republicans move more toward the positive. there are troubling signs from them in places like here. like in ohio and in florida, some other battleground states. they have to take either ohio or florida to win this thing. they know that. they have a lot of work to do in places like this. melissa: rich edson, great interview. good job. thank you so much. >> thanks, melissa. melissa: states cut $100 billion worth of